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 Post subject: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:38 am

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Hallo,

from time to time people want to betray on Ebay or other marketplaces.
It seems that the desire for the Hang makes some people very careless and those scammer have success.

I strongly recommend any person who want to buy a second hand Hang to read this topic with important informations:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=662

As a warning how danger it could be to buy a Hang on internet marketplaces I open this topic to report Hang Scams.

Frank


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 Post subject: Re: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:43 am

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Hi,

there is a Hang on Ebay. The seller send pictures with a fake serial number.
On this topic you found all informations about these scam.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=789


Frank

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 Post subject: Re: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:21 pm

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I would like to add to my suggestion of using an escrow service to offer protection. Good to read this Wiki information that helps guide us about genuine, licensed escrow services and scam escrow sites...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escrow

Using a reputable service like this would virtually eliminate the risk. (Still good to ask all the questions first though).

:)

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 Post subject: Re: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:29 am


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Another PANART SCAM from a new "Strange" ebay user without "older transaction feedbacks" is offering a first generation hang hang = 2.000 € on EBAY (ITALY).

I don't know Funky if it's correct to post the links for this cause, but if you want to check this scam just type PANART HANG on http://www.ebay.it and you will find this hang, there's other two first generation hangs on sale that you can't find if type "Panart hang" on the main italian ebay site (classico mode).

I always do some research in EBAY.de, ebay.com.au, ebay.it, ebay.fr, ebay.at and of course ebay.ch. There's lot of hang scams from that ebay extensions sites.

Here's the links list of some hang scams and also speculation:

1. http://cgi.ebay.it/Hang-von-Panart-/110 ... 19be1163e6

2. http://cgi.ebay.it/Panart-Hang-First-Ge ... 19bd729800

3. http://cgi.ebay.it/Panart-Hang-Drum-one ... 2308c37688

4, http://cgi.ebay.it/Panart-Hang-PENTA-C- ... 3a5d1a6bbe (Amazing this auction got 29 offers... people are crazy!!!).

Cheers!

Massimiliano


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 Post subject: Re: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:31 am

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I don't understand why do you think that these are scams.

Ix


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 Post subject: Re: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:34 am

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Hi,

I also think we should only post clear! Scams and not all Ebay auctions. A lot of auctions are curious and we could only warn to buy any Hang on Ebay.

Frank

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 Post subject: Re: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:38 am


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I sent some PM using ebay to these sellers, nobody sent any confirmation about "please send me to my email, bigger pictures to check and control de surface quality of the hang" , I also asked for better video files of each hang + the SERIAL of the hang, and NOTHING. So if they ar asking between 2000 to 4800 for a first generation hang hang their must be clear with other ebay users, also if they want to have success selling their hangs.

When a ebay user didn't send you more information, details, where he bought the hang etc. for me is something suspect. I sent those messages 1 week and a half ago.

Otherwise in some auctions there's too much speculative price no? for me it's a kind of scam Panart and their work if you ask 4800 for a de-tuned and rusty hang.

What do you think?

Massimiliano


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 Post subject: Re: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:44 am

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Massimiliano wrote:
for me it's a kind of scam Panart and their work if you ask 4800 for a de-tuned and rusty hang.

What do you think?

Massimiliano


Hi,

the rusty, out of tune and damaged Hang ist realy a Scam. Not worth only 10 Euro.

Frank

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 Post subject: Re: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:35 pm


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Seems like here's is another one: http://cgi.ebay.com/panart-hang-drum-/1 ... 255d3607f8

:? :x :?: :cry: :|


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 Post subject: Re: Hang Scams !!! Warning !
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:06 pm


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Guys!!! check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/PANArt-Hang-Drum-Ho ... 3f031d70f2

I love the initiative of the seller message :D, really good idea to stop the hang scams on ebay :D

Massimiliano


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